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Overrated due to Kurt's untimely death?

Don't get me wrong, I love Nirvana. But I thought I might start a discussion on whether Kurt's death added to the legend of the band and therefore has made them more popular than would be expected for a band who split up 13 years ago.

This idea came into my head when I say a boy of about 10/11 wearing a Nirvana hoodie (he wasn't even alive when Kurt died!). I thought that perhaps it was due to the legend of Kurt, and his view of being some completely misunderstood that he couldn't stand it any more.

I then got to thinking that artist's painting increase greatly in value once the artist has died and then considered that this may be true of music too. What about the Manic Street Preachers, was it a coincidence that they became more popular after the disappearance of Richie?

I know this is quite philosophical, but thought it would be good to get some other opinions on this.

Again, please don't consider this an attack on Nirvana, I love their music and consider them to be the most influencial band of the last 20 years at least.

Steve.
Avatar: st3v3b st3v3b - 27 February 2007 10:19pm

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Jethro1966 said:
Yep Love Nirvana. I appreciate their music - shame we didn't get any more, but love what we've got. Enjoy everyone.
27 February 2007 10:39pm


bakeri666 said:
i think it has helped in the way mentioned in your entry about the young boy.. but if it has helped all its done is make nirvana a brand... I wouldnt have thought the lad in question knows anything of Kurts death.

the only other thing it may have done is increase peoples awareness at the time - which will have introduced more people to their music... which (lets face it) is so good it keeps them interested. but im sure that his death only increased awareness for a short period of time.
27 February 2007 10:43pm


telbert76 said:
I think that some people follow things because they think it's cool. Some kids want an image or identity.
I'm 30 and most people I know who love Nirvana and have actually see them play live don't own any clothing with Nirvana Branding on.
Hopefully the kids will actually listen to the music and gain good taste.
28 February 2007 12:42pm


halfpint1 said:
a band who is able to stop at there height in a world where music rotates in fads (a bit like fashion) can possible generate more income and possibly a bigger fan base than if they had continued to struggle through electro pop, rave and all those others 'happening' scenes. However having a band member die or go missing can make the band legendary as noone knows if they were ever to flop and dissappear into obscurity or become one of the great. Jeff Buckley (not that i heard is stuff) is a legend but in his life time he wasn't recongised instead he walked into the mississippi one day and vanshed(supposedly) he now sells more albums than he ever did. If Elvis had not died and cared on making music would he have still got the same respect?? Only a hand full of Bands/artists can keep on selling albums and tours decade after decade David Bowie, Rolling Stones, Queen etc. Back to Nirvana, I think Kurt and to some extent richie were both voices for our generation and the younger ones coming up - they made us aware of the problems some of us faced - they had a voice that would scream louder and get more attention. It's a shame Kurt's death was shrouded in mystery, too many questions un answered and Richie's body never found (if he did drown and not dissappear). I don't think in the last decade there has been any such stars who children of today can connect with. However wasn't Nirvana apposed to the commercial side so would Kurt approve of such happenings these days?

Good blag!
28 February 2007 5:26pm


Tottitots said:
I see your point but dont think its right, nirvana are legends beacause of their music not of how kurt died
1 March 2007 7:25am


st3v3b said:
Thanks for making these comments, I appreciate your views and understand them all, as I my mind is torn between the two possibilities. Of course, it is a question we are never going to know the answer to. What I wanted to do was start a discussion that would allow me to see if others felt the same.

I agree with the point about children developing tastes in music that is not of their generation. I also love the music of the Beatles, who split up a decade before I was born and Pink Floyd, who until last year at Live 8 hadn't played together in my lifetime. I think this enriches the musical understanding of a person to appreciate the music of another generation.

Thanks again for all your thoughts.
1 March 2007 9:20pm


wtjpugsley said:
They tolk music by the balls and twisted them off. Kurts death didn't cause what happened next. They where already there.
1 March 2007 9:27pm


mel. said:
I think that yes his death did do them very well.
I, myself, was not around when Nirvana was on the scene but i have been introduced, and do love their music.
I think Kurt's death makes his music seem more real. That he actually wrote about something that he was feeling, unlike a lot of bands that come to mind; who can write about being depressed/in love/on drugs but have no experiance of it. Too many bands that are created for my generation are based on some fake stereotype the record produces think will sell well. This is why i turn to the odl fashioned rock n roll!
I think he was an incredily mis-understood man and i do admire him. His death makes me want to understand him more, so i turn to his music for some clues.
With Nirvana i never felt what they wrote was 'fake' and I think Kurt's death reasures that it wasn't.
1 March 2007 9:48pm


tormeb said:
Does it matter, if their music connected with people then surely that's all that matters?
11 March 2007 11:37am


konarob said:
Kurt was a drugged up f**kwit, come on, his death didn't make the music more real. It did massivly add to the hype around the band at the time. I was alive and already listening to them before he topped himself and it was amazing how soon afterwards there were heaps of people jumping on the bandwagon.
The music was great on Nevermind, but to be honest I kind of went off them when they became a bit too wierd with In Utero, it was a completely different sound and I didn't like it.
28 March 2007 4:15pm

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